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Postby krysta11 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:04 pm

I absolutely agree with Dawn, Erika.
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:01 pm

I am disappointed with the finished piece. It looked good without the sealer, but as soon I painted the sealer on (matte!), it got all glossy which killed the piece.
As you can see on the second pic I tried to accentuate the depressions of the face with paint but the new coat of sealer absorbed most of it.
If anyone knows a
and of sealer that is really matte please let me know. Glossy just doesn't work very well with this one.

The last pic is the finished piece. In real life is glossier. I'd like to know if the background works or not. I just wanted to give it a neutral colour with some texture. Thanks Nigel for the textured glue idea, that's what I used.
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Postby krysta11 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:49 pm

Hi Erika,
For me it doesn't look to glossy. I would say, semi glossy. It looks also more like
onze. Love it!
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Postby nigelartist » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:18 pm

I think the last version is ace.

The manic
ain/hairdo and hands reaching out for help remind me of me!

Did I give you permission to use me as a model? LOL!!!!

Great work.
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:17 pm

krysta11 wrote:Hi Erika,
For me it doesn't look to glossy. I would say, semi glossy. It looks also more like
onze. Love it!
krysta


Thanks, Krysta. You do? I feel the one on top was better, but this air-dry clay is not waterproof.
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:23 pm

nigelartist wrote:I think the last version is ace.

The manic
ain/hairdo and hands reaching out for help remind me of me!

Did I give you permission to use me as a model? LOL!!!!

Great work.


Lol, Nigel, did you not say the same thing of the gargoyle?
Even if I'm not satisfied with the final version, it feels good that you guys like it. Maybe I'll learn a new trick down the road that can be used on the jester.
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Postby Singular » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:40 pm

I think the final product looks good, but I see what you mean. Is it the difference in color on the face where the crevices are that you do not like, or the glossiness?
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:09 pm

Singular wrote:I think the final product looks good, but I see what you mean. Is it the difference in color on the face where the crevices are that you do not like, or the glossiness?


Joe, the glosiness takes away the shadows of the crevices. It looks less 3D. Even the expression on his face changed. I can always go back later if I find a solution.
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Postby Singular » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:51 pm

Not sure it will help with the glossiness, but it may. I painted a pair of concrete columns for a coffee table with oils. I mixed burnt umber with a ton of linseed oil to make it almost liquid, so that I could get it in all of the little cracks.

Not sure if it would work for you, but I would mix linseed with a very dark gray and give your face a coat. It might be a bit shiny in certain spots, but should dry well.
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Shoe Polish Patina

Postby pehiatt » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:59 pm

In school we used
own shoe polish wax in the flat can. Soft luster and transparent. Use a
ush to force it into the low spots. wipe of excess. Creates a good patina effect.

Dries hard no sealer required.
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:14 pm

Singular wrote:Not sure it will help with the glossiness, but it may. I painted a pair of concrete columns for a coffee table with oils. I mixed burnt umber with a ton of linseed oil to make it almost liquid, so that I could get it in all of the little cracks.

Not sure if it would work for you, but I would mix linseed with a very dark gray and give your face a coat. It might be a bit shiny in certain spots, but should dry well.


I should have started with this in the first place. What concerns me now: it already has tones of coats on,everything from watercolour to slip and acrylics. :roll: Would it take oils on top of a glue-based sealer?
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Yes

Postby pehiatt » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:20 pm

Oil patina will cover almost everything. Water based products need to go on first. They won't adhere to oil. I use burnt umber and panes grey on everything, especially frames. Sometimes the more layers the better.
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Re: Shoe Polish Patina

Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:20 pm

pehiatt wrote:In school we used
own shoe polish wax in the flat can. Soft luster and transparent. Use a
ush to force it into the low spots. wipe of excess. Creates a good patina effect.

Dries hard no sealer required.


It sounds great, Pat! I forgot about the shoe polish. That's definitely more matte. I think I'll try this first. Thank you so much.

And thank you, Joe. I think I'll use your technique too, if not on this one, on another one for sure.
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Re: Yes

Postby Erika Takacs » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:13 am

pehiatt wrote:Oil patina will cover almost everything. Water based products need to go on first. They won't adhere to oil. I use burnt umber and panes grey on everything, especially frames. Sometimes the more layers the better.


Thank you again. I'm sure these tips will help. Patinas and finishes are very tricky business.
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Postby Erika Takacs » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:20 pm

This is my final effort, with the shoeshine. Time to move on. Thanks for the tip again.
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Postby nigelartist » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:58 pm

Well I'm smiling!

It IS a fantastic artwork.

Love it!
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Postby Erika Takacs » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:40 pm

Thanks Nigel.
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