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Can anyone date this portrait and subject?

Postby robert35 » Wed May 09, 2012 10:02 am

Attatched is a portrait found in an old picture frame, under another print.
It's a beautiful young lady of unknown age.

Looking at the subject's clothing, I'm wondering if any of you artists might be able to put a date on this piece of art.
It's not a painting and not chalk, so maybe colored pencils (?)

There is what looks like an address on the back. The handwriting is rather fancy. It reminds me of the hand writing from a letter that my Grandmother received in the 1920's from her sister.

I'm curious to know how old is this portrait, and how old you ladies and gentlemen, think the young woman was, at the time of the portrait. On the back it appears to show what clothing the artist wanted her to wear, to the art session.

The lady in the photo is someone's Mother, or Grandmother, or other relative.

Does she have any features that imply she might be European?

And what are your opinions on the talent of the artist.
Thanks for any opinions.
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portrait of a young lady from the earl 1900's or before?
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Re: Can anyone date this portrait and subject?

Postby johnwalkeasy » Sat May 12, 2012 7:33 pm

I think the best thing to do is perhaps e-mail a photo of this work to some museums or art galleies. It does look early 1900,s.
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Re: Can anyone date this portrait and subject?

Postby mark33 » Wed May 16, 2012 4:06 pm

It's just a guess, but I would say somewhere between 1890 to 1920.
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Re: Can anyone date this portrait and subject?

Postby LakeofGlass » Wed May 23, 2012 2:49 pm

Are you sure it isn't a painting? Some forms of paint, especially on a flat surface like that, may not show the brush strokes, especially since it's faded. Some forms of tempera can be done on a flat surface, from what I remember. Oil would be obvious; the canvas needs to breathe. I'm not wanting to readily say it's colored pencil because the strokes would show up somehow and look much sharper, in spite of being faded. Colored pencils weren't invented until the early 1920's, notably beginning with the A.W. Faber Company. This is why I would want to say it was done in either a form of water-soluble paint, or paint that could be easily layered, like egg tempera, which is very transparent.
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Re: Can anyone date this portrait and subject?

Postby robert35 » Sat May 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Sorry for the delay, I did not get notification of the helpful comments that have been made.

Yes, we can contact a museum or gallery.

I do not have the actual work in hand, but I'll suggest that it be examined alot closer for it being paint or tempora.

Thanks for the ideas.
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