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DLKeur wrote:Hmm. pehiatt, you really got nailed, didn't you. I'm sorry that you didn't have a good lawyer and influential friends "in low places" to help.
Me.
But on to the question that started this thread: Why don't we talk about controversial subjects here? I'm not sure. I think it's because no one wants to sully this place with crap. We like Joe and the home he's built us, and we don't want controversy muddying up our relationships with each other...because, quite frankly, most people DO NOT defend the right of someone to express an opinion contrary to theirs. Instead, they avoid them, or worse, deride them, and respect turns to contempt, and, ultimately, hate.
Sorry for the long post.
Mike51 wrote:Forgive me for jumping into the middle of this interesting discussion, but I have been trying to identify the "significance" of the art that I see in these times. I believe there are plenty of artists out there making those social commentaries. ie..banksy. The problem, as I see it, lies in the fact that most of the visual arts that we are interested in is overshadowed by TV and other mass media in this 21 century. In its self, that isn't anything new, and has been gradually pushing the fine art in to museums or dusty attics. Except for sites like this, that fit into this new world. A lot of people in this world have no appreciation for any thing other that what Britney Spears is doing. A majority of them haven't even read a book.
I have sold many paintings as furniture, which is ok by me, But I also have some favorite pieces in that dusty attic or my studio, because it disturbs somebody in the house. I do enjoy the reactions when someone sees those pieces, it beats "oh thats nice".
Film is probably the most powerful media for reaching the masses, and even that requires the audience cooperation. In a gallery setting you only have a matter of seconds or maybe minutes to make a statement. With film you have a few hours.
When I see an artist that is true to himself/herself and not concerned with the commercial benefit, I usually see real sucess. When I read about art history and the artist that recorded that history in thier lifes work, I get a sense of who that person was. That is one aspect that really hasn't been effected. But thats my take. Thanks
BAReam wrote:Mike51 wrote:Forgive me for jumping into the middle of this interesting discussion, but I have been trying to identify the "significance" of the art that I see in these times. I believe there are plenty of artists out there making those social commentaries. ie..banksy. The problem, as I see it, lies in the fact that most of the visual arts that we are interested in is overshadowed by TV and other mass media in this 21 century. In its self, that isn't anything new, and has been gradually pushing the fine art in to museums or dusty attics. Except for sites like this, that fit into this new world. A lot of people in this world have no appreciation for any thing other that what Britney Spears is doing. A majority of them haven't even read a book.
I have sold many paintings as furniture, which is ok by me, But I also have some favorite pieces in that dusty attic or my studio, because it disturbs somebody in the house. I do enjoy the reactions when someone sees those pieces, it beats "oh thats nice".
Film is probably the most powerful media for reaching the masses, and even that requires the audience cooperation. In a gallery setting you only have a matter of seconds or maybe minutes to make a statement. With film you have a few hours.
When I see an artist that is true to himself/herself and not concerned with the commercial benefit, I usually see real sucess. When I read about art history and the artist that recorded that history in thier lifes work, I get a sense of who that person was. That is one aspect that really hasn't been effected. But thats my take. Thanks
Mike.. couldn't agree with you more. I'm beginning to wonder if US, indeed the world, suffers from something akin to attention deficit disorder. We shouldn't be surprised I guess when we are constantly confronted with 5 minute sound bytes and endless inane pop-up advertisements.
As for pop culture in general; I think I would like to resign, if only I could.
Be well...
uce
DLKeur wrote:BAReam wrote:Mike51 wrote:Forgive me for jumping into the middle of this interesting discussion, but I have been trying to identify the "significance" of the art that I see in these times. I believe there are plenty of artists out there making those social commentaries. ie..banksy. The problem, as I see it, lies in the fact that most of the visual arts that we are interested in is overshadowed by TV and other mass media in this 21 century. In its self, that isn't anything new, and has been gradually pushing the fine art in to museums or dusty attics. Except for sites like this, that fit into this new world. A lot of people in this world have no appreciation for any thing other that what Britney Spears is doing. A majority of them haven't even read a book.
I have sold many paintings as furniture, which is ok by me, But I also have some favorite pieces in that dusty attic or my studio, because it disturbs somebody in the house. I do enjoy the reactions when someone sees those pieces, it beats "oh thats nice".
Film is probably the most powerful media for reaching the masses, and even that requires the audience cooperation. In a gallery setting you only have a matter of seconds or maybe minutes to make a statement. With film you have a few hours.
When I see an artist that is true to himself/herself and not concerned with the commercial benefit, I usually see real sucess. When I read about art history and the artist that recorded that history in thier lifes work, I get a sense of who that person was. That is one aspect that really hasn't been effected. But thats my take. Thanks
Mike.. couldn't agree with you more. I'm beginning to wonder if US, indeed the world, suffers from something akin to attention deficit disorder. We shouldn't be surprised I guess when we are constantly confronted with 5 minute sound bytes and endless inane pop-up advertisements.
As for pop culture in general; I think I would like to resign, if only I could.
Be well...
uce
That's why, decades ago, I got rid of the tv...permanently. Haven't owned on since the early nineties, and didn't watch much -- maybe Nightline occasionally -- after the late seventies, early eighties.![]()
BAReam wrote:I think what you are describing is apathy, and a sense of helplessness and or hopelessness. I hope I'm wrong on the last two points. Be well.
Bruce
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