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Postby starvingartist » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:03 pm

This is probubly my best painting so ill put it in the "I'm ready for the fury" section.
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Postby johnwalkeasy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:44 pm

Starving, This painting needs a lot more work and time put into it. Needs much more color and much more detail. Work such as this don.t past the test. Take a little time. If your work is important to you. You will imporve. Just slushing paint on a canvas does not make a piece of art. Good luck to you.
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Postby starvingartist » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:50 pm

i guess i wasnt ready "for the fury" because now im really sad.

im not done with it your right. its still on the easle and its unsigned ill work on it more. thanks for the input but can you elaborate on which part of my painting needs "the most" work. and maby give me a few ideas?
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Postby Singular » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:57 pm

Don't get discouraged. It's all a learning experience. Each painting that you do teaches you ways that you can improve uopn or things that you did well that you can grow on. Let me take a look at your work a little later and then I will give you some feedback.

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Postby johnwalkeasy » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:29 pm

Starving, I would sugest that you go to your local lidrary and check out a book about light houses. One with some good pictures. Also a couple of books with some paintings. And I would think some drawing and painting classes would be a great help. And don,t be sad. The frist time Babe Ruth step to bat. He struck out.
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Postby starvingartist » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:26 pm

oh your crazy its not that bad the lighthouse looks shorter on film then in real life. like i said im not finnished. i think the grass around the rocks looks prety good. i guess i asked for the fury but i dont think its that bad.
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Postby starvingartist » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:33 pm

I worked on my light house tonight and i think it looks worse... :cry:
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Postby johnwalkeasy » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:30 pm

Starving, Maybe you should post this painting in the painting section. Ask for few pointers. I,m sure some folks will key in and give you some advice. As far as me being crazy, I can,t argure with that. LOL. Keep working. Good luck.
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Postby Singular » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Hey Starving,
Here is what I think that you need to do. First of all, preparation is very important. Make a lot of stetches and try your best to emulate the final draft. Try drawing it on canvas with an umber, thinned with linseed before adding color. That way you can work on depth and perspective and actually place things as they should appear without having the worries of messing up. Define your light source and stick to it. Finally, be careful to keep it clean. Don't be in a rush to get finished because you may be excited. It takes time and time should not be forced. Your edges should be more precise. Also try using a bit smaller
ushes for certain things and blend your colors with a larger dry
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Postby starvingartist » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:07 pm

it looks worse to me then it did before
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Postby Singular » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:16 pm

I actually think it looks much better. Keep working on depth and definition. But be patient. Wait for it to dry a bit before you add more color.
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Postby starvingartist » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:16 pm

the paint was a little clumpy so i scrapped it off so i could make the edges cleaner i will show you an updated picture someday. but i tryed to make the houses more 3-d. youll see it on the next update it might take 4 or 5 days for me to show you the newest picture because like you said i want it to dry...

i need to pick up some gesso for my next painting.

also what is a "umber"??

you think i should put linseed oil on my next canvas before adding paint??

your right i need to work on light soruce!
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Postby Singular » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:27 pm

Umber is a shade of
own. Burnt Umber is a good base color to use to draw your image on canvas before you add color. Using linseed oil with the umber works as a medium. The more linseed you mix with the umber, the thinner it will be, giving you a "lighter" shade. The less, the darker. Experment on your next painting. Try using nothing but burnt umber and linseed oil to draw your image. Start light and then gradually add shadows. Once your base coat is there and it resembles something you are happy with, slowly start to add color.
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Postby johnwalkeasy » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:24 pm

Starving, I,m no painter. But I,ll try and give you an idea or two. To begin with. Go outside somewhere and find a rock. One about the size of a foolball. Take a good look at it. Have it right beside the painting. And go over the rocks in your painting useing the real rock as a guide line. and in your painting use pleaty of lines to give the rocks a real rocky look. Use differnt shades of color to give deft and intrest. Don,t think about nothing but the rocks. Give them some meaning, some power. A reason to exsit. Work with it, Get as well as you think you can. At that point, when you think you,ve done your very best on them, and no less. Then it will be time to move on to somthing else in the painting.
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Postby starvingartist » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:08 pm

Update... i think i might almost be done... tell me what you think???!!!
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Postby starvingartist » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:12 pm

Ill post a big one just in case you want to see the fine detail...............


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Postby Singular » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:38 pm

From what I can see, it looks much better. Keep up the good work and never stop learning.

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Postby johnwalkeasy » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:27 pm

Starving, It,s looking better. I would sujest a couple of things you might want to work on. 1, Get rid of the words old sheld. Work on the doors of the old sheld. Paint some framing and give the doors the look of wood panels. Give the handles the look of old rusted metal. Also give the sheld and other buildings the look of ageing wood. also work on the roofs of the buildings. make them look like singles or some kind of wood panels and lighted them up a bit. Mabe have a little more green weeds and maybe some kind of wild flowers all around.
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Postby starvingartist » Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:22 pm

john i like all your advice its good stuff.


im going to study the bird of paradise thats outside of my house and add some to my painting.
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Postby SONIC » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:30 pm

:D Really interesting viewpoint.
Colors are Beautiful.
Couple of things to keep in mind.
Generally, things that are closest to us have more detail.

They don't have to. But if not, they should have a reason for
not using detail.

And, if you really enjoy Lighthouses or horses or
whatever, then show how much you care about them
by showing them in detail and thinking
' How, can I show the person looking at this,
just how incredible the subject(s)
I love are!'

Connect with the emotion for your subjects,
and you will also connect with the viewer!

You might want to
explore different views.
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